[WLANware] ff-meraki-pack?

[Dan Flett]

Hi Sven,

I think releasing Freifunk Firmware as packages is a great idea.  It'll make
things easier for you too. :)

I would be nice if we could see a stable release of Kamikaze soon though.
It's hard to work with a moving target!

The Meraki Firmware is forked from OpenWRT but is a little bit different.
It uses a /storage directory as it's jffs2 writable partition.  I hope a lot
of the packages you are doing for the Fonera will work on the Meraki without
modification.  Although with a Meraki we don't need the Fon stuff, we just
want the OLSR stuff.

With a package-based Freifunk Firmware, will you use the Freifunk Webadmin,
or use X-WRT's webif^2?  There are some guys working with X-WRT who are
"backporting" the freifunk webadmin into a webif^2 OLSR interface - maybe
they need some help from the Master. ;)

I like the idea that with Kamikaze, I could create a Freifunk Live-CD and
run it on my laptop, or in a VMWare window. :)

Cheers,

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wlanware-bounces at freifunk.net 
> [mailto:wlanware-bounces at freifunk.net] On Behalf Of Sven-Ola Tuecke
> Sent: Monday, 23 April 2007 12:30 AM
> To: wlanware at freifunk.net
> Subject: Re: [WLANware] ff-meraki-pack?
> 
> Hi Dan,
> 
> catching up with the ever evolving/changeing hardware front 
> with monolitic one-upload-does-it-all firmwares will be too 
> much work. Just if you're ready with one, another interesting 
> thing will pop out of the supermarket. The fonera stuff costs 
> me by far to much time - and I'm due upgrading the standard 
> bcom-freifunk-firmware...
> 
> For this reason, I am willing to maintain the broadcom 
> firmware as it exists. This will stay on kerel 2.4 and will 
> run on those things we already have on the roofs. This 
> includes devices with 2Mb Flash + 8Mb RAM.
> 
> The fonera pack is a special. I used it to learn for the next 
> wave. Which will simply consist of an ipkg to be installed on 
> top of a standard OpenWrt. 
> No more (other) monolitic firmwares from my side. Installing 
> an ipk will require medium skills and will also adress the 
> needs of the more nerdy audience. Even the most eleet are 
> lazy - and so normally their from-scratch mesh installations 
> typically suffers from missing services / misconfigured 
> stuff. In other words: they install + maintain what they need 
> and do not think too much for others. Doing only ip transport 
> is not enough in my opinon. An ipkg will help, but will leave 
> enough room for lots of customizations.
> 
> // Sven-Ola
> 
> ""Dan Flett"" <conhoolio at hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
> news:BAY141-DAV25306636C877BDE5345BAAF540 at phx.gbl...
> It depends on the situation and the people who are doing the 
> installing.  I want to let end-users do the installation.  So 
> I want them to have an easy as an experience as possible - 
> like just hitting "Upload" in the router's "firmware upgrade" 
> web interface..
> 
> Loading OpenWRT on the Meraki involves either pulling the 
> unit apart and attaching a serial cable - which isn't too 
> hard for most of us but too difficult for some.  Or you need 
> to monkey around with ip addresses and try to catch the short 
> Redboot Telnet window to get in via telnet.  not for the non-hacker.
> 
> If you are going to install them yourself, then get a serial 
> cable, and installing 20 won't be too hard.  But it might be 
> too difficult for an end-user to install.
> 
> Dan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wlanware-bounces at freifunk.net
> > [mailto:wlanware-bounces at freifunk.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Paufler
> > Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2007 4:51 AM
> > To: WLAN-Hard+ Software, Antennen
> > Subject: Re: [WLANware] ff-meraki-pack?
> >
> > Hey Dan
> >
> > > This is a fantastic idea - I would really like to see
> > something like
> > > this for the Meraki.  While it is possible to install
> > OpenWRT on the
> > > Meraki, it is difficult unless you have a Serial cable, and
> > that has it's own problems.
> > > I am thinking that a ff-meraki-pack would solve these
> > problems - the
> > > vendor Meraki firmware allows you SSH access, and it has
> > IPKG installed.
> > Why exactly is it difficult to install openWRT on meraki?
> > What are their "own problems" regarding openWRT?
> >
> > I ask, because we might use ~20 of them for ghana. If it is a real 
> > problem to do meshing with them, we should consider not to use them.
> >
> > Thanks for hints.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > --
> > Angewandte Informatik - Computer Aided Facility Managemnt 
> FHTW Berlin 
> > (http://www.fhtw-berlin.de)
> >
> >
> 
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